Server Progression & Player Experience

i don't mean that in a bad way, so don't get me wrong

- "nobody need lvl scrolls" -
in my opinion, it's something for lazy people, or people who have too much money.
if a player don't have enough time for a MMO, they you should reorganize.
lvl scrolls makes the theme park mmo content useless, and this applies to the first character as well as to the tenth.
and that's my opinion, i know that i shouldn't have to use such a lvl scroll.
i recommend to every player, take your time, and learn to appreciate the world of MMOs.
this version of Tera is massively trimmed down compared to the first version, and you can progress really quickly enough.

new content , yes thats a other thing..............

sorry , but your post is in my eye`s a maximum of whining

OltSoldat

regards

Zitat von s3yya

Don't get me wrong, TERA is an old, dead MMO. The majority of the player base consists of veterans, people who have played this game for years, it's very rare to see actual new players joining.

Because of this, veteran players don’t want to bother with leveling and excessive grinding, they’ve already done that for years on retail, since TERA survives only through private servers, players just want to come home, sit down, and relax while pressing buttons with their homies.

TERA is already a game where you need friends to play properly, and even they will eventually quit after a certain period. Forcing players to grind and level up manually won’t attract any veterans, and once again, veteran players make up the majority of the private server player base.

I still think implementing both ways of leveling up scroll and manual would be a good idea, but in the end it's not up to me. Plus, OltSoldat has already replied regarding his vision on this topic.

" Every player, take your time and learn to appreciate the world of MMOs "

Normally, I would agree with this point, but in the case of TERA, maybe it applies to a new MMO, not one that’s been out for at least 10 years and struggles to attract new players.
If new players do join, sadly, they’re a very small minority, while veterans make up the majority.
You can't keep a private server alive if you place your hopes on new players, it's obvious that the old players will bring it to life by playing there, as they play out of nostalgia and represent the majority.

And on a final note, what do you mean by whining? I’ve said some really solid points, if you don’t agree take each point individually and provide counterarguments to prove me wrong.

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well, unfortunately it reads like crying

i'm not new either, but as a veteran, i think it's great that this offer even exists. this for the point "dead" mmo.
and that's exactly, why it's even more important for me, that new players, if you bring some along, appreciate that.
i know, how many things are possible, and because i like MMOs and also TERA, i level every character as - if it were my first one
i'm assuming, that this the point who shows, we are two different types of MMO players

note: all this should appreciate Veterans in particular

regards

the problem that i see is:

- all players skip the content because they can, leaving no players for small dungeons and areas
- you can do many dungeons alone, but i think that's a big mistake
- a game that gives the impression of being a single player game, will not give many older players an incentive to check it out again
- in the long run, it also will not give new players an incentive, as they have to assume that they will mostly have to deal with the content on their own , because it can skipped by players.

in the end: you need only "lvl up max npc" and "a portal" to the end zone on the beginning isle and all is fine

you won't be able to reinvent the wheel with Tera, but within the scope of the possibility, you should look at which things would attract players and which are only of use for a while, until the player puts the game aside again.

i don't think anyone wants Tera to theoretically be reduced to a dungeon browser and chat only game, because the rest has been pushed out with questionable decisions.

in the end , the question is, what want the owner reaching.

it is strange that these questions are coming up more and more on p-servers. the players know very well, that there are more additional options, and are even more dissatisfied than with official systems.

i have hosted more than one p-server in the past, and it's the same issue everywhere.

but, in the end, that's just my opinion, i'm not responsible where this all goes
and a question that i always ask myself: why should i play an MMO mostly alone? wouldn't it be better to spend that time somewhere else?

regards ,

and first and foremost, have fun with friends

The players who come to the server and want a 70 role right away are the ones who won't be around for long in the endgame. At least that's my experience. This is of course very individual and doesn't necessarily apply to you, but that's why I see the short lvl phase as a motivation check. I think it's reasonable for everyone to lvl at least one character manually.

Also, a lot of people keep leveling up characters here, just for fun. I don't think that's why people decide against the server.

EDIT:

The goal of a server or a game in general is to keep players occupied for longer. Of course this is a private server, but the Admins have a clear idea of how they want to set up the server. And the people who are here enjoy it.

What you are looking for sounds to me like a fun server where the grind is reduced to a minimum. But that's obviously not what Tera-germany wants to be.

Zitat von s3yya

Don't get me wrong, TERA is an old, dead MMO. The majority of the player base consists of veterans, people who have played this game for years, it's very rare to see actual new players joining.

Because of this, veteran players don’t want to bother with leveling and excessive grinding, they’ve already done that for years on retail, since TERA survives only through private servers, players just want to come home, sit down, and relax while pressing buttons with their homies.

TERA is already a game where you need friends to play properly, and even they will eventually quit after a certain period. Forcing players to grind and level up manually won’t attract any veterans, and once again, veteran players make up the majority of the private server player base.

I still think implementing both ways of leveling up scroll and manual would be a good idea, but in the end it's not up to me. Plus, OltSoldat has already replied regarding his vision on this topic.

" Every player, take your time and learn to appreciate the world of MMOs "

Normally, I would agree with this point, but in the case of TERA, maybe it applies to a new MMO, not one that’s been out for at least 10 years and struggles to attract new players.
If new players do join, sadly, they’re a very small minority, while veterans make up the majority.
You can't keep a private server alive if you place your hopes on new players, it's obvious that the old players will bring it to life by playing there, as they play out of nostalgia and represent the majority.

And on a final note, what do you mean by whining? I’ve said some really solid points, if you don’t agree take each point individually and provide counterarguments to prove me wrong.

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As a Veteran player who played for years i´m someone who love the leveling part. And i know some other ppl who love questing and explore the world. It´s not like the realese Tera where you need days or weeks to be max lvl. Even for new players it´s better to lvl up manually till the endgame to learn the class and fighting system of the game in my opinion.

And i don´t get the point of beeing instant lvl 70 because what do you do when u get max gear? Most ppl stop playing because there isn´t new content frequently like these ppl "need" to be motivated longterm.

I share the opinion with Denroc, when ppl want to be fast max lvl and max gear they leave the server as fast as they join

The amount of cope is high xd

Zitat von Denroc

The players who come to the server and want a 70 role right away are the ones who won't be around for long in the endgame.

I find this statement so hard to believe honestly, lvling process in tera offers absolutely nothing except for nostalgic value. Even on retail any new player even with whole lengthy lvling was objectively not having any knowledge of how to play the class, it was achieved by doing actual dungeons (and no, maca isn't an actual dungeon). Maybe in 2012 it actually gave players some knowledge, but surely not at point where we got exodor expansion.

For sake of argument, I am veteran, I wanted to give this server a try, I got to lvl30 and uninstalled, because why would I waste my time doing absolutely useless activity in form of levelling and gaining nothing instead of actually playing the game. I will spend hours and weeks grinding for my gear, EP, advancement, cards and all other things, for any new player just enough to learn basics of their class in an actual content :]

To each their own, friends, but I am afraid for majority levelling is an instant no-no. *smile*

As I said, these are my experiences. That is very individual.

To be honest, I understand that even less. You don't want to spend 4 hours leveling up a character, but you'd rather spend weeks farming cards that only give you a small bonus. That's crazy.

Of course you don't learn your class while leveling, but as a new player, and there are actually some here who have never played before, its harder for them if they had all skills at the same time. Leveling offers the opportunity to be slowly introduced to individual skills, the combination in which you play them gradually emerges and is optimized in the endgame. Tera private servers are no longer healthy MMOs, there are too few players and it certainly makes sense to focus these few players on certain content. I think you have to organize the leveling differently so that the new players come into contact with others earlier, but I still think this phase makes sense.

That said, it's still part of the server concept. There are other servers, if your requirements are better met there, try them

Zitat von nihao

The amount of cope is high xd

I find this statement so hard to believe honestly, lvling process in tera offers absolutely nothing except for nostalgic value. Even on retail any new player even with whole lengthy lvling was objectively not having any knowledge of how to play the class, it was achieved by doing actual dungeons (and no, maca isn't an actual dungeon). Maybe in 2012 it actually gave players some knowledge, but surely not at point where we got exodor expansion.

For sake of argument, I am veteran, I wanted to give this server a try, I got to lvl30 and uninstalled, because why would I waste my time doing absolutely useless activity in form of levelling and gaining nothing instead of actually playing the game. I will spend hours and weeks grinding for my gear, EP, advancement, cards and all other things, for any new player just enough to learn basics of their class in an actual content :]

To each their own, friends, but I am afraid for majority levelling is an instant no-no. *smile*

Sorry but i still don´t understand why you want to play a MMO and want to grind weeks for the gear when u don´t want to spent 4-5 hours for lvling till 65. As a Veteran u can easy spam dungeons untill 65 and after apex u do Syruks or MC till lvl 70.

People always want to be the easy way without working for it. Thats why i hated all the MMOs i tried for the past 10 years. Its sad and make me lose the fun of playing

Zitat von s3yya

I think you're not okay if you can't tell the difference, so spending hours to level up it's the same experience and content as running multiple dungeons in order to grind gear, lmao, roger that.

I keep seeing some of you call yourselves veteran players, but I highly doubt that.
You seem like the typical players who only run low-level dungeons, afk in game a lot, and waste time 'exploring' the open world( taking screenshots), only to then complain about highend dungeons that you can’t clear and the gear locked behind them.

You guys have only 10 players online daily for a while now, and it doesn’t seem like that will change anytime soon.
I wonder why? Oh, probably because those 10 players want a retail experience on a private server, cut the bullshit already, the kind of players who could actually populate a private server couldn’t care less about this stuff, otherwise they would already be here playing.
This is my last comment, i gave up on the server already, good luck keeping it alive with financial support from just 10 players who think they’re getting a great MMO experience by losing hours only to prepare ur charcater so you finally be able to run dungeons and grind for gear.

Veteran has nothing to do with which dungeons you run or what content you want to play. Veteran only says that you have already played this game through many phases.

The rest is just bullshit. It's obvious that you haven't played here. There are a lot more players than the 10 you mentioned, all of them have no problem with leveling part. Especially since they will help you if you ask. Then it's even faster

However, you don't seem to understand that every server has its own approach. You can't just change it because you want it that way. Bye